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Tweetie Flaws (OSX Twitter App)
written by Allan Branch on April 22nd, 2009
Tweetie, an osx twitter app, is a good app that could be great with a few changes.
I'm expecting a comment from @timchilcott who is Tweetie's #1 fan.
I'm expecting a comment from @timchilcott who is Tweetie's #1 fan.
12 Responses to “Tweetie Flaws (OSX Twitter App)”
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Hey, I’m in the video! Neat!
On the subject of RT-vs-(via)... I personally like the (via) format because RT muddies up the message. Too often I’ve seen “RT @username RT @anothername Some message.” (Obviously we can agree that there’s more going wrong there than simply RT-vs-(via) issues.) Here’s an example that happened last night: http://twitter.com/larry_slo/status/1580652848 That’s a 3-layer deep Retweet! Sometimes when I run across an “RT”, my brain just shuts off. It’s starting to feel like spam.
But I actually think both RT and (via) have their place. I use “RT” when I need to do a direct quote and the statement wouldn’t make any sense if the reader thought it was coming from me. (E.g., “RT @lessallan “A new version or website is up. Go check it out! http://lesseverything.com”) But I use “via” when I’m just sort of passing along information. (E.g., “Tweetie for Mac is available. Go download it! (via (@lessallan)”)
In summary, “(via)” is like citing a source, RT is a direct quote.
!jon
Oh, and Nambu is meeting all my personal Twitter needs. I was totally psyched about Tweetie, but it’s too different. It wants me to change my Twitter consumption habits.
I want to be able to spacebar through my messages one by one. I want the spacebar to jump to the newest unread message and then just jump to new messages (skipping read messages) with each pressing. And not to mention Growl notifications.
Nambu: Stupid name, great Twitter app. http://www.nambu.com/
!jon
Jon, you missed the point of why RT is better. It’s less characters. How many levels of “(via)” could you get to if the original tweet was 110 characters? The point is having those extra characters takes up the character limit of the tweet.
Totally. No I get it. If you’re running out of characters, you do what ya gotta do. But if there’s room, you’ve got options.
But I also don’t believe in nested retweets. Why do we care who the person your heard it from heard it from? Ya know? Just credit the originator.
!jon
Its great that you realize that you are being a diva. But thats your opinion and I am sure that the creator of Tweetie will appreciate the feedback.
I think that via is more human and I personally feel that it sits well in a retweet situation. Like Jon Crawford said, there is no harm in crediting the originator.
After all, being a company that creates apps you should realize that there is no pleasing everyone.
Perhaps something to think about is the title of your post. You seem to want to advocate the idea of RT and somewhere in the middle is poor Tweetie getting bashed around. Think about it. You said it your self…. “Jon, you missed the point of why RT is better. It’s less characters. How many levels of “(via)” could you get to if the original tweet was 110 characters? The point is having those extra characters takes up the character limit of the tweet.”
I look forward to any constructive criticism that you can offer.
Oh geez…...i see the good and the bad with tweetie. There are things I like, and things I don’t, but at the end of the day its the one that fits my needs the best which is why I am a champion for tweetie. I’m a diva too, my needs are more important than anyone else’s.
I agree with Jon, ‘via’ is less jarring. I also use ‘via’ when I’d like to restate something in my own words or point out something different about the link or story. There’s room for both and I appreciate the developer including it.
My biggest beef with Tweetie is the fact it doesn’t seem to save searches.
What I love is the way it displays threads. Great app, can’t wait for more updates.
You via people are bitches.
Holy crap, that’s first time I’ve ever actually heard Allan speak long enough to hear his accent.
Anyway, I’m with Jon on the RT/via thing. I use both the same way he does. I always RT direct quotes for the same reason Allan does, it takes up less characters. But I’ll use via if I’m sending my own tweet out with a link I got from someone else. I’ll even do this if I got the link from their blog and not twitter.
So, RT = quote, via = attribution. Which of course allows for RT + via = quoted attribution. That’s right, twitter math, bitches.
As for Tweetie, I’d love to use it but I need to have something that runs on both Mac & Windows and unfortunately that only means AIR apps right now. I can’t spend 8 hours a day on a Windows machine at work with TweetDeck and then go home and use something complete different. The dissonance is just too much for my fragile little mind.
I prefer the RT format over via. RT=-3 characters and using “RT” to quote and “via” to cite is to complicated for me.
Obviously opinions differ so the logical solution, in my opinion, would be for Tweetie to offer the option to change the default “via” to “RT”.
And Allan, about your gripe with the lack of a persistent post window: the easiest way to post a Tweet is command+n opens the new post window and command+return posts the tweet without having to click the post button.
I hate when people nitpick, but…
OS X = OH – ESS – TEN
When you say Oh Ess Ecks, you immediately lose any credibility. It’s a roman numeral, make the mental leap when reading.
It’s like guys named Xavier that call themselves Ecksavier. Dude, that’s not your name, it’s pronounced Zavier… always, it’s not a choice.